I like the gist of this -- and I'd like to hear if the folks you asked for the increase in their offer (sounds like a summer contract) worked it in your favor?
As a recruiter (former) for Fortune 50 and small companies -- I often DID have the ability to negotiate a better deal for a candidate that was worth it and to turn down ones that weren't. I acted as a business partner for my hiring managers - who had other jobs to do and were overworked (thus the open role). In many cases a variation of $100K would tell me the person was "playing" and had no clue of the geographic area/cost of living; really didn't do research about the role and their part in it (why would I move someone forward who hadn't done their research?) ; they were going to come back and up the ante at the close of negotiations - meaning I'd be back tot he drawing board when my company said "no" (pay bands are in place for a reason.
I'm big on realistic negotiations, knowing your worth and being straightforward in all interviewing negotiations. And so were my hiring managers. They looked to me to give them t he insight on what was "really" happening with all candidates.
Lol I would kick such candidate out for "not doing enough research"! If he can't figure something out for himself, how is he gonna do that for the company?
I am willing to pay for your services, but not a four-figure upfront fee. Your claimed success rate should minimize or eliminate risk for you in assuring that you will make your commission during my first year of emplolyment. Phil
I like the gist of this -- and I'd like to hear if the folks you asked for the increase in their offer (sounds like a summer contract) worked it in your favor?
As a recruiter (former) for Fortune 50 and small companies -- I often DID have the ability to negotiate a better deal for a candidate that was worth it and to turn down ones that weren't. I acted as a business partner for my hiring managers - who had other jobs to do and were overworked (thus the open role). In many cases a variation of $100K would tell me the person was "playing" and had no clue of the geographic area/cost of living; really didn't do research about the role and their part in it (why would I move someone forward who hadn't done their research?) ; they were going to come back and up the ante at the close of negotiations - meaning I'd be back tot he drawing board when my company said "no" (pay bands are in place for a reason.
I'm big on realistic negotiations, knowing your worth and being straightforward in all interviewing negotiations. And so were my hiring managers. They looked to me to give them t he insight on what was "really" happening with all candidates.
aligned on all of this - and to answer your question nah they asked and couldn't push the rate up unfortunately
I really appreciate your transparency here Kareem. Thank you!
Lol I would kick such candidate out for "not doing enough research"! If he can't figure something out for himself, how is he gonna do that for the company?
I am willing to pay for your services, but not a four-figure upfront fee. Your claimed success rate should minimize or eliminate risk for you in assuring that you will make your commission during my first year of emplolyment. Phil
I like these high-level thinking over simply doing tasks because there are reasons behind actions.